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Posted Saturday, August 23, 2008 2:02 AM

Master P and Better Black TV

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Percy Miller, aka Master P, is launching his own family-oriented black TV portal. Calling it Better Black TV, Miller rejects his past as a raunchy, graphic rap artist in favor of providing something more wholesome for the public to consume. Part of me thinks that this is just purely economic: rap music’s gangster narrative has kinda topped out, and the music just isn’t selling the way it used to, especially since you can basically just get it for free. Miller sees the popularity of the Jonas Brothers and other family-centered entertainment and wants to beat the rush of commercialism by being the first one in. Except that Robert Townsend tried the same thing some years ago with the Black Family Network and it failed miserably. It folded in 2007.

 

 

Part of the problem is that none of us can decide what family values look like, or what constitutes wholesome entertainment. Interesting, that we look at Sanford and Son and Good Times now as “wholesome,” but back in the day, people thought it was degrading and kind of risqué’. I don’t know if Miller will succeed where others have failed, but before he goes forward, he has to answer an important question.

 

 

What does “black family-oriented entertainment” look like?

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Posted By: Catch (August 22, 2008 at 6:51 PM)

To me, "black family-oriented entertainment" would be the ABC Family channel (but with black people) and PBS combined.


Posted By: MilesEllison (August 22, 2008 at 6:57 PM)

The real question is whether or not black people will watch.  There is a lot of complaining about negative images in the media, but it still gets ratings.  


Posted By: NZA (August 22, 2008 at 10:53 PM)

i dont know why anybody should be going to master p for family programming in the first place. now that he's made his millions he can say what he did was wrong? he gets no cookie from me.


Posted By: ch555x (August 23, 2008 at 11:55 AM)

Catch:

I agree with the comparisons.  It maybe wishful thinking, but I hope its something like that or a more progressive TVOne.


Posted By: gidget (August 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM)

I don't think that we, as a people, have figured the answer out yet. Today's black family is so complex that it will require an array of shows to portray what the black family is. Basically, I believe that this new network must encompass any and everything that black people hold dear. This is not something that could be done quickly because much research must be done. The idea can be brilliant but you have to have an audinece to keep in on the air.


Posted By: bryony1 (August 23, 2008 at 11:17 PM)

What does “black family-oriented entertainment” look like?

The "Cosby Show"?


Posted By: snapdiva (August 24, 2008 at 1:03 AM)

Humm Black oriented family entertainment

Bernie Mac Show

A Different World

Sister, Sister

couple of old Disney and Nicklelodeon shows with Black teens and tweens as primary characters

Sanford and Son

The Cosby Show and its incarnations

Nat King Cole Show

Julia

Fat Albert Cartoon

Wee People Cartoon

Lil Bill Cartoon

Several Home Improvement shows with black hosts

Varying quality-- but this is not exactly a new idea....

How about some Black oriented game shows, reprise Iyanla Vanzant or other African American talk show host that doesn't focus on "my baby's daddy paternity" :),  A Masterpiece Theater with August Wilson Plays, Jazz and Blues show like the one on PBS eons ago....

Sorry but Mr.  P isn't doing this for his peeps, he is doing it for the green and the bling.  Reminds me of another entrepenuer who sold his "network" to Viacom a while back.  Now building a delux gated beach side resort in Liberia....


Posted By: wes76abrams (August 24, 2008 at 7:01 PM)

When looking at a subject like this we must think about how we want to be portrayed as a whole. Do we want to be percieved as the chicken george character in roots, or do we want to be portrayed as the surreal cosby family that lived in oppulance and didn't really face many real black issues. What ever it is I think that it should be more than just a BET or UPN. It should be informative but at the same time intertaining. To truly answer brother Izrael's question we must answer the question of what black means to us. Since this is not the same for the whole lot of us everyone wont be happy with the outcome.


Posted By: dr spaceman (August 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM)

These days, it looks like "Meet the Browns," and all the rest of that Tyler Perryesque buffoonery so popular amongst the superficially Christian black masses. Basically, if you don't put foul language in a program, and you show at least two generations of black people interacting, most black t.v. wathcers will consider it "wholesome" and "black family-oriented entertainment."

Nevermind narrative quality, acting skills, origninality of humor, subtlty, nuance, complexity of characters, interesting plot lines (even for sitcoms; its possible)... We don't even EXPECT any of those things in our t.v. programming. As TP has proven, all the masses of black people who would be the most receptive to Master P's version of black family-oriented entertainment need is MUSIC, DANCING, and GUFFAWING, and they will be happy as pigs in slop. Oh, and make sure to throw some fat people in the programming. That makes the majority of the lower classes feel included in society, to see themselves reflected on t.v. in all of their ignorant, slovenly, unfunny glory.

P can't go wrong as long as he puts some fat, unfunny, cliche black comedians in fromt of a camera and tells the writers not to put cursewords in the script.


Posted By: Furious Styles (August 25, 2008 at 4:34 PM)

Ditto to what Dr. Spaceman said.  Don't forget the random, apropos-of-nothing guest appearances of rappers and R & B singers in the sitcoms.   You have to work Young Jeezy or Keyshia Cole somewhere into the plotline.  


Posted By: dr spaceman (August 26, 2008 at 10:37 AM)

Thank you, Furious. How could I forget Keshia Cole? And we know Sticky Fingaz -- better yet, Bokime Woodbine -- will definitely bring in ratings.


Posted By: Dantresomi (August 26, 2008 at 2:29 PM)

big up to Snap Diva, she got it right....

i don't think the issue is figuring out what it is but whether we will support it.

that's the question we should be asking.

but Master P?


Posted By: Yuseff (August 27, 2008 at 9:43 AM)

Master P is no great role model but I've always admired Percy Miller.  He is a business man plain and simple.  He would be out there selling blueberry muffins if he thought he could make a buck off it it.  

Now that said, if he does make this TV portal made of truly entertaining and wholesome Black TV then I applaude him.


Posted By: davidjkelly (August 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM)

I think black family- oriented tv looks like episodes of shows that my family and I and my young children can watch together without having to turn when profanity is used or slight nudity. My pastor could find good fun in episodes and life lessons are learned as you watch the shows. "The cosby show." When I was younger it was just a funny show, but as I got older I saw the life lessons for people in the shows.


Posted By: jamesr@diversitycouncil.org (August 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM)

Here we go again!!

Why is that when a brother wants to try to do something positive, its has to be put down by individuals who can see past there own opinions.  Sure, there are many questionable reason why Master P would venture into this but at least he is thinking in the right direction.  Part of the reason why we as a people can't come together is because we can't even see past our own shortcomings and presumptions long enough to see what is what.  

We spend more time trying to explain away the positive, until all that is left is the negative.  I am not saying we shouldn't question what he is doing, but at least the questions should be used to steer him in a direction that will lead him to success.  

We all have "shady"ness in our past.  We have spent money to see people who are still doing dirt.  Let's wait and see what happens...if it works then great, if not, then we should weigh in on better ways to do it.

I for one hope he can do it, because it will give my kids a better chance to see something more positive about them, than the continued marginalization of what people believe it means to be black!!


Posted By: corey79 (August 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM)

james@diversity...

no one could have said it better...

thanks buddy...

i was not a huge Master P fan until I saw him on Nickolodeon with Romeo's show...

I wish you good luck,

i think what he's attempting to do is a good thing for the community, but only if he can make it work...

but i also understand that it's his money...if he wants a network with nothing but midgets, he can do it...cuz it's his money...if he thinks he can profit off of it...then so be it...

we also have to understand how the American (not just Black America) public actually appreciates having their tv's dummied down...

some of it is out of naivity, some is due to not caring or ignorance, and a slew of other issues...

but they affect all of us...

I again want to wish Master P good luck...

and my advice or words of encouragement (??) would be to tell Master P, and any others following this path is that SEPARATE IS NEVER EQUAL...

(don't mind me...i'm just more pro-global than i am pro-black...)


Posted By: rjgarrick (August 30, 2008 at 10:25 PM)

Snapdiva's second to last paragraph.


Posted By: MIB (September 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM)

I hope the people here understand this is an IPTV channel... not terrestrial, cable, or sat TV.


Posted By: Holliday5 (September 23, 2008 at 7:08 PM)

How about THE WALTONS, THE BRADY BUNCH, and LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE?