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Posted Monday, July 21, 2008 4:05 PM

The Dark Knight and The Tupac Syndrome

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The Dark Knight hit the screen with record-breaking numbers and universally positive reviews, but I wonder how much of it is the Tupac Syndrome—the idea that, once an artist is wacked or meets an untimely death—like Tupac Shakur, for example-- his or her body of work, and especially their last completed work, is now the greatest example of the genre in the history of mankind.

 

NOT TRUE.

 

Not to needlessly knock the dead, but we need a reality check here: Heath Ledger was an Australian acting import on par with Mel Gibson or Olivia Newton John. Ledger took some risky roles, but didn’t change the game remarkably. He basically picked his roles 'by the numbers.'  While I’ll give that he puts a different stamp on the role of The Joker, I don’t know if it was worthy of all the posthumous Oscar talk floating around. The film owes as much to an inventive script and a stellar cast as it does to any one actor. But we have a weird kind of snuff fetish with the works of the recently departed, and I think Ledger benefits from that.

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Posted By: The Spaniard (July 21, 2008 at 10:54 AM)

This is absolutely correct.

Ledger could have sat on a stool and scratched his head for 45 minutes in this movie and it would have been hailed as the greatest moment in the history of film.

This has two be a two pronged fork.  One being the direct intervention of people who have a direct financial stake in the artist's final product and the second being the idiotic celeb worship that seems to consume a large portion of the population.


Posted By: greygirl (July 21, 2008 at 12:17 PM)

Jimi - I sort of feel you on the "we-sometimes-unnecessarily-glorify-the dead-just-to-prove-they-were-good-when-they-were alive-and-we-knew-it-all-along" tip. But you got it wrong in this instance. Heath Ledger brought it in "The Dark Knight" and deserves every bit of recognition he's getting--he breathed life into the character that made him interesting and storied. I agree it was a strong cast all around, but you can't tell me Ledger didn't make the movie. I'll give you that his other roles never really impressed me this much, but you got to give him his props for this one!


Posted By: miss lauren (July 21, 2008 at 12:42 PM)

I think that Ledger would have been given accolades for his performance even if he was alive. Its good. The cast was excellent too so it would have been hard to put forth a bad performance but his Joker really creeped me out, unlike Nicholson's which I thought was too campy. The body language with the nurse's uniform! Sorry Jimi you would be wrong on this count, Ledger's performance was pretty darn good.


Posted By: Craig (July 21, 2008 at 8:37 PM)

Peter Finch won the Best Actor Oscar in 1976 because he was smart enough to die close to the time when the ballots were sent in.  No doubt, that was a good career move.

James Dean's death rocketed him to iconic status.  If Marlon Brando had died in the Fifties, he would've been idolized more than James Dean has been.  Too bad that he hung on till he was 80 and had been morbidly obese for 30 years.  (By the way, why did he hang out with the "Gloved One"?)  


Posted By: caroaber (July 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM)

Mel Gibson and his siblings hail from Peekskill, NY. He doesn't have the bragging rights, say, of a 7th generation Aussie whose ancestor was transported to Botany Bay for being a common thief. He's no "import."

And as for Ledger's performance, you oughta wait until you've seen it before you comment on it. He was a fine actor, and gays would disagree with your claim that he "didn't change the game remarkably."  "Brokeback Mountain" was a watershed movie, and this man from Oz was brave enough to accept his role and play the hell out of it as a brokedown, repressed, lovelorn ranch hand. In short, he moved people, touched our hearts.

And while I'm at it, some of us happen to enjoy ONJ.


Posted By: MekhisMom (July 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM)

I do not agree with you.  I am no Heath Ledger fan as a matter of fact I never even saw Broke Back Mountain and have no idea what other films he has done.  

BUT - I saw The Dark Knight yesterday (I am not a big Batman fan either) and his performance was truly remarkable.  It made the film.  He was in a role that has been played by Jack Nicholson (a formidable actor) but took it to new heights.  Of course this film is darker than any of the other Batman series so the Director obviously provided him with guidance but he truly nailed the Joker.

Have you seen the film?  Check it out and then let me know what your thoughts are.  


Posted By: Omugabe (July 22, 2008 at 12:21 PM)

Jesse Jackson has placed his life and health on the line for Black people.

Jesse Jackson has been a HERO to Black people.

Jesse Jackson has great affection for Black people.

Therefore, Jesse Jackson is at liberty to call n!gger those we know he holds near and dear.

It is less about the word 'n!gger' and more about the emotion/intention the speaker associates with n!gger.

N!gger coming from the white man has historical ILL WILL associated with it.

That is why the word 'n!gger' is rejected coming from the white man.

N!gger coming from one like Jesse Jackson has no ill will; because Jesse Jackson is known historically to demonstrate affection for his people.

Those African Americans who are getting their panties in a bunch over Jesse Jackson's PRIVATE WHISPER are self-hating, and as usual are going after the wrong target -- self.

All African American venom over the HARMLESS incident should be targeted at the KNOWN bigots are Faux News.

Why allow the bigoted vultures at Faux News to sitting on the sideline with glee as some ignorant African Americans do the usual 'Black on Black' hating on each other?  

How self-hating and self-destructive to be hating on each other while the Faux News n!ggaz are having a ball at Black people's expense?


Posted By: Yuseff (July 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM)

Omugabe,

   What in the heck does this ridiculous rant have to to do with Heath Ledger or dead celebrities?


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Posted By: SuthernDandy (July 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM)

I'll grant you that there was some level or morbid curiosity driving the interest the movie, But give Ledger his due. The man gave a brilliant performance. Who knows if its Oscar-worthy, as if we could quantify that. And yes, the Nolan brothers deserve credit for creating a great character. But Ledger gave that character life. Without Ledger's energy, the film would have been inert.  

And I would hardly think that Ledger by the numbers is a bit off. Monsters Ball, Candy, Brokeback Mountain..I'm not sure anyone would classify that as a by the numbers resume.


Posted By: Patra (July 24, 2008 at 5:48 PM)

Heath Ledger ROCKED as The Joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I loved Jack Nicholson as TJ, but Heath took it to a whole new level, and made that role his own.  He stole every scene...including the scene where he's dressed up as a nurse...he had no dialogue in that particular scene...but the body language!!!  The entire audience was cracking up!

He deserves all the accolades he's gotten for his performance...I'm sorry he's not here to receive it.


Posted By: dsholmes1 (July 24, 2008 at 7:19 PM)

Wow! I think not folks people appreciate good work and his work as the Joker is pretty damn good. Give credit where credit is due. I will say though, had Ledger not died Batman might not have broken records but it would still be a 100 mil plus film. Also, the script is very well written but its Ledger's added quirkiness that adds to the role. How did he not do an amazing job as the Joker. The mannerisms and style of speech (the voice and the laugh esp) is all thanks to his acting. Ledger was even responsible for the anarchist take on the Joker. I cannot help but disagree with you on this.


Posted By: hockeyrules (July 29, 2008 at 5:35 PM)

Pauly Shore could have portrayed the Joker in this movie and it most likely still would have been a blockbuster.  The more authentic portrayal of the Batman series is what's driving the moviegoers.  After suffering through the Tim Burton versions, the storyline and cinematography are superb.  Ledger's untimely death is just another in a long line of young actors who couldn't find that balance of reality and self-delusional immortality in their lives.  No one actor is bigger than a comic book legend that's spanned over 40 years.