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Posted Friday, April 25, 2008 6:31 PM

The Wright Question

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PBS is airing the first extended interview with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright tonight. Bill Moyer will pummel him with hard questions about his patriotism and the politics of the pulpit, and Wright won’t back away, instead standing firm on his principles. And he should.  When I heard that Wright was a UCC pastor, I wasn’t entirely surprised. I know something of the UCC.

 

The United Church of Christ (Trinity’s “Mother church,” if you will) is a very progressive, very liberal touchy-feely large-ish Protestant denomination. I know that because although I was not a member of the church, I was employed by them—as staff news writer and web news editor---for four years. I resigned my post for a variety of reasons, not least among them the fact that while there is a lot of high-minded white liberal goo-gobb about inclusion, racial harmony and reconciliation—just like everywhere else in America—there is  very little of it to be found within the organization. UCC churches are either black or white, with some rare mixed congregations in the suburbs.  And while you may find Wright’s comments strident, I assure you his fiery brand of oratory is consistent with other black UCC churches. There is a frustration that some black folks in the pews have with the powers that be, and church leaders would be remiss not to make it plain on the pulpit. The whole reason there is a black church tradition is because whites did not want to worship with The Help. So the hotness from the altar? Well, that is as it’s ever been, and as it should be. Right On. Everything is not for everyone to understand, and white people particularly can’t seem to understand that.

 

The broader question about The Wright Controversy, for me, has nothing to do with Barack Obama, politics or patriotism. There are three places in America that black people could always speak freely and plainly: the church, the beauty salon and the barbershop. Those places were black institutions. You could say whatever you want within those walls, and know there weren’t any white folks around needing an interpretation or demanding an explanation. Everyone around you knew your language, your idioms, your rhetoric and the roots of your righteous outrage: you were among family. Elsewhere, like clubs and bars, white folks slum in hopes of picking up pieces of your peculiar jive and jungle music. In the confines of the church, the salon or the shop, you had no worries. Because white folks, literally, had no business in any of those places. 

 

But now that the mainstream media has seen fit to come out of pocket and violate the sanctity of the church, where can we go to speak our mind without having to answer to The Man? There is this very colonial motif of having to filter black free voices through a sieve of white ignorance and paranoia. What you say—and what other black people in your vicinity say!—has to be state-sanctioned and approved by people who have no idea what you are talking about, and you’d be a fool to explain it to them. “Negro Tour-Guide” is an under-paid position with lots of work, but no benefits.

 

All indications are that The Rev. Wright is unapologetic.  And Thank God for that.  Because The Wright Question is, if you can’t speak freely and plainly in church without consequence, where are you free? What is your freedom worth if you are not entitled to an opinion you can share—in any matter you like—among friends?


 

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Posted By: Cobb (April 25, 2008 at 2:10 PM)

I think this is going to be another one of those episodes where there is nothing genuinely interesting going on - where everybody who is attracted to the discussion is attracted for the wrong reasons (according to me).

When this stuff first busted out, the first question I asked was what does Wright's theology say about black theology. There's a kind of 'it is what it is' anti-intellectuality surrounding this whole thing that plays out in typical race-relations style. I'm not convinced that's what people want to see, but it sure seems that way. In otherwords, Moyers + Wright = Movie of the Week. 90 minutes of melodrama where everybody already knows the ending.


Posted By: beenthere (April 25, 2008 at 4:11 PM)

Amen to that.  I listened to the pundits' pre-broadcast take on the interview and many seem to feel that Wright should not speak out now because  it could hurt Obama's campaign. Never mind  that Rev. Wright's  reputation  hasn't been trashed because Obama is running for president.  I say good for him.  


Posted By: swagganj (April 25, 2008 at 4:21 PM)

Now that's real talk...I was watching the clips from the interview that they played on CNN last night, and he was definitely unapologetic, and shooting straight. When asked about Obama's response to his remarks, he pretty much said that I spoke as a pastor and Barack spoke as a Politician. You are right, he has nothing to apologize about and like Wright also said, if you listen to the whole sermon you will know what he is talking about. People who are independent thinkers will not fall for the okedoke being perpetrated by those who put those clips out there, but unfortunately most will form judgements based on knee-jerk reactions and prejudice...and like Wright also said, that's what the clips are out there for...

http://pcashperspective.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/jeremiah-wright-says-barack-is-a-politician-and-i-am-a-pastor/


Posted By: SilenceISGolden (April 26, 2008 at 2:47 AM)

Make up your own mind....

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

I can't see CNN admitting that they were wrong and retracting the story (althoght the cat is out of the bag).  They should be sued for defamation of character.  I don't know many unpatriotic pastors that operated on a former president.  This was silly.


Posted By: reinadelaz (April 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM)

Jimi, do you really believe that white and black should not worship the Most High together? All are one in Christ. You seem to be advocating "Separate but equal," which should never be acceptable, regardless of who proposes it. As for barber and beauty shops go, In really did not believe there was such a thing as black racists until I tried to find a hairdresser for my Mulatta princess.

Any fair-minded,Bible-believing Christian who heard Reverend Wright's controversies in their entireties would concede that there is no controversy here. He was not preaching personal opinions. All that I heard was Biblically sound teaching. Shame on Obama for lacking the personal and political courage to stand up on behalf of the reverend.


Posted By: BEEZUP (April 27, 2008 at 9:27 AM)

White Guy here -

  I get it - black folk (as anybone else) should be free to speak.  Certainly, men of God struggling with the earthy flock, get a little (more) delusional at times.  Rev. Wright, as a service veteran, gets extra respect in my book.  If he wants to wave the flag over the graves of slavery and Native Nations, I'm all for it.  Historical policy that was evil better be learned from, or it's still alive, just dormant.

  I think people who were looking for a reason to bash Obama found it, and I'd be damned surprised if any Obama fans fell away because of this tiny tempest... both Obama and Rev. Wright have handled their responses superbly - controlled, intellectual, diminishing.   Personally, I didn't hear anything nearly as scary or wack-a-doodle as, say, Bill O'Reilly.  As far as I'm concerned, the jury's still out on what took down WTC Building 7, who all shot JFK,RFK, & Rev. Dr. MLK, and where in hell (or Matyland) AIDS came from.  I just don't have time to sort it all out.

  Jimi, as an infotainment media member, you are responsible for making shorthand sense of the stuff your readers can't sort out - just like CNN, or Bill Moyers.  Simply claiming that it's a black thang doesn't help.  Neither does bashing white Libs, slummers, and Negro Tour Guides.  The Klan doesn't make much of an effort to reach out toward MLK's dream, either.

                                                                                      Stay strong.


Posted By: uncledicky (May 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM)

Dear Mr. Izrael,

Three points:  One:  Rev. Wright took his comments outside of the church first buy selling the DVD's to the public and second by going on several synicated talk shows and other public forums - we did not go looking for his point of view - he made sure we knew it.

Two:    To imply that there is something about the black experience that 'we' will never understand and are, in fact, not supposed to, is one of the most prejudiced and separatist statements I have ever heard.  However, if I concede that point, it might help you come to terms with a fact that you can’t seam to let go of, which is…

Three:  I have never owned a slave. I have never hung a noose or burned a cross.  I live in a mixed neighborhood in harmony with many races.  I see only Americans trying to raise families.  Stop holding me and my generation responsible for something we didn’t do.   This overt hatred of America is not helpful.  If Rev. Wright is in fact a Believer in Jesus Christ, then in spite of 'circumstance', he should be preaching joy, reconciliation, healing and growth.  No, I hear precious little gospel – I only hear political rhetoric.


Posted By: Dolomite Cutler (May 1, 2008 at 2:39 PM)

The misguided and most indulgent part of this article is that by yielding Rev. Wright's freedom of speech, Jimi Izrael is completely ignoring the qualitative value of his words.  The first time I heard some of Rev. Wright's comments, I was nonplussed.  "Oh, he thinks 9/11 is America's comeuppance for global terrorism?  How does this differ from Jerry Falwell's statement about our amorality and how September 11th was a condigned fate?, "  I said to myself.  

But as one digs deeper, Rev. Wright's comments devolve into a dystopic fairy tale of things that cannot be proven, thus wondering what impetus lead to the original supposition.  A good example of this wackiness is how AIDS was not only invented by the government, but invented explicitly to cull the black population.  Sure we know the Tuskegee experiments were real, but where is the evidence to actually suggest that HIV was similarly injected into black people?  And how does this theory reconcile with the initial emergence of HIV in gay men in the US?  Much like how Holocaust deniers have the nerve to say the Holocaust never happened, anyone with a good imagination and indifference/ignorance to Occam's Razor can make fantastic attributions about anything; the onus is YOU to prove your case.  Until then, it is bullshite to the rest of us.  In other words, Rev. Wright has every right to say anything he wants.  However, there are plenty of us that will impugn the veracity of his claims.  

Rev. Wright is doubly wrong because his poor timing hurts Obama by association.  In a country where 10% of the country freely admit that the race of the candidate matters (as if Obama weren't also equally white, but that's another story), it only worsens the situation for Obama.  It can certainly be argued that those ten percenters were not voting for Obama anyway-- and that is probably true.  Nonetheless, making an attempt to win such voters seems more reasonable than alienating even more of them.  Until we're dealing with a well-informed, and fair constituency (like the people who voted for Bush in 2004; like the people who believe Obama is secretly Muslim, even though we are talking about Obama's pastor of two decades; as a corollary to the previous, like the people who believe there is something inherently wrong with Islam), we have play by their rules.  I don't have enough faith that all American people that will give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

Based on the initial fallout a few weeks ago, Rev. Wright cannot feign ignorance about his effects on Obama's campaign; his media tour is only self-serving and factually erroneous to boot.  Wright can *** right off!


Posted By: Freedom_Jury (May 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM)

Wright should be praised for speaking his mind, and not backing down.  How else can we possibly get to the truth?  

I despise many of the things that Wright believes, and many of the things he has said.  BUT HE WAS MAN ENOUGH TO SAY IT, AND HE WAS MAN ENOUGH TO NOT SHUT HIS EYES TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH AMERICA NOT LIVING UP TO ITS PROMISE!

I despise racism, and I think the author of this column betrays his own racism in the following passage:

"Elsewhere, like clubs and bars, white folks slum in hopes of picking up pieces of your peculiar jive and jungle music. In the confines of the church, the salon or the shop, you had no worries. Because white folks, literally, had no business in any of those places. "

If whites did have business in any of those places, maybe those places would have done more business, made more money, and been wealthier (both from the tolerance they might have taught, the exchange of dollars, and the wisdom learned from those who were "slumming"  --your racist words, not mine).

The number of racist whites is roughly equal to the number of racist blacks.  A majority of both "races".  

The majority of people are conformist, and they think as members of a herd.  That = racism (fear of those outside the herd).  Black individualists have more in common with white individualists, as recent events at the Libertarian Party of Chicago's meetup group have recently proven to me.

If you swim in the sewer, you're going to stink.  What else is the discussion of race that leaves out mention of the concept of the individual, and the content of character?  The majority is happily paddling away in the muck, worrying about the inanities uttered by Obama, Wright, ClintonII, McCain, and other parasitic people who are distinctly part of the problem.

Why choose the lesser of two evils?  Why choose more of the same old, tired prohibitions that easily allow racism in law-enforcement?

I've never agreed with it, and I never will.

For those "blacks" and "whites" who are tired of voting for people who will lock up young black people and ruin their lives, and the economies of the geographically darker-skinned inner cities, there is always the Libertarian Party.

Forget voting for "the lesser of two evils".  Forget pandering to the power machines.  

It is the power machines that are evil.

Nevermind how strong slavery looks, from a distance.  When you stand up to it, it wilts like a vampire in the sunlight, for the same reason: evil cannot challenge good, except in ignorance.

Frederick Douglass counseled political action, instead of Garrison's personal moral condemnation of slavery.  Douglass was right.  As long as blacks accepted slavery, and didn't fully oppose it, loudly, vocally, and with force of arms, it existed.  It was ended when it became untenable for the slaveowner.  Douglass stood up, and was counted, as was Lysander Spooner, as were thousands of northern libertarians, anarchists, thinkers, abolitionists, suffragists, and fellow travelers.

Those people all lead from the front.  They knew what was right, and they pursued right, in spite of what they were told by the conforming majority.  They were all told the same thing that individualists are told today:

1) You have no chance at a pure victory, vote for the lesser evil of the segregationists over the Jim Crow slaver!

2) You have no chance for a pure victory (Be happy that you are not lynched, don't dare marry across race lines!)

But the winners were always the ones who said: TO HELL WITH YOUR MODERATION.

Later on, they were the Jack Johnsons who slept with white women and dared any Klansman to lynch them, knowing full well that they would put any who dared try in their graves, and carried the tools (firearms) necessary to do it too!  They were the thinkers and doers.

Never be submissive, or take counsel to limit yourself.  That is the greatest tool your enemies have over you: your own willing submission.

If you are not satisfied that Wayne Root understands the ideas better than Obama, then vote for Obama.  But do not complain when Obama keeps his promise to erect a new DEA office in New Orleans, and there are scores of young black and mexican men in prison as a direct result.  Obama never once indicated that he was part of the solution!  Don't blame him when your Obama vote doesn't get you a closeted freedom fighter!  He's in favor of "KEEPING the guns out of the inner city"!!!!  (In that, he and the KKK are in complete agreement!  Neither want guns in black hands.  ...No matter whether they are responsible business owners, or wild gangsters!)

Obama is a "house negro".  He believes in race, because a belief in race is a belief in the politics of group identity.  Group identity allows for political control.  Group identity allows for slavery.

...And without slavery, Obama would have to get a REAL JOB.

WAKE UP.  POLITICIANS = OVERSEERS.

The best politician is the one who will use his office the least.

Reagan promised this (and lied.)  This confuses a lot of people.  But it's not a hard concept to understand.

When you work 1/3 of your life for the government, who is your master?  For 1/3 of the time it's the State.  Do they offer to give you your money back?  Do they offer you any control at all?

NO.

Only the Libertarians do.  This is why the mainstream media tried so hard to attach Ron Paul to his sometimes idiotic and race-baiting former employee, Lew Rockwell.  They knew that if blacks voted for Ron Paul, and discovered the Libertarian Party, then the flow of money to the prison industry would dry up, overnight.  The DEA, ATF, IRS...  They need the ability to use force against innocent civilians in order to support their kingdoms!

But if they don't exercise force on a large scale, they lose the ability to exercise it.  People start to wonder why they're paying taxes for all those uniformed stormtroopers who never do anything...

...They need an underclass of easy victims.

The politicians want you in your place: handing over the dollars while they do your thinking for you.

Be a man.  Stand up.   Do whatever it takes to be a legal gun owner.  Never stand for anyone pushing you around: YOU DON'T HAVE TO.  YOU HAVE NO MASTER. NEVER VOTE TO HAVE ONE!  That is mental weakness.  You might have a master in form, but never willingly have one in fact.  And make him fight to keep you under control.  

Never give him a plowed field for having turning his back on you!

If the black community refused to vote for prohibitionists, and refused to put people in jail for owning private property, how fast would the prison-industrial complex crumble?

We'll never know if everyone continues to vote for prohibitionist politicians, thinking that if only a black man held the whip the system would somehow change.  It won't.  

The racism in the system will stop when the racist parts of the system are destroyed.

I strongly urge any black who understands enough to oppose prohibition to attend the Libertarian Party's National Convention in Denver, on May 22-26, 2008.  At least follow along.  At least pay attention.  At least know you don't have to keep putting people like Roderick Pritchett in jail with your uninformed, subservient, and thus evil votes.

Because there are over 1.6 million people in prison in the USA, and most of them are INNOCENT of any wrongdoing.  They shouldn't be there!  They were guilty of "carrying a gun" (like their Constitution and the "Marbury v. Madison" Supreme Court decision guarantees them the right to do!).  Or guilty of using or buying drugs (that were all perfectly legal before the year 1907!).  Of driving without a license, (and without the funds for a good lawyer).  Or the prosecution railroaded them in voir dire, and the remaining jurors were a bunch of conformist dashboard bobbleheads who always trust authority, and know nothing of history.

WAKE UP.  YOU HAVE THE POWER TO END SLAVERY.  But you can't do it by voting for business as usual politicians who speak in unphilosophical generalities, or offer you "services" with your own damned money.  (And what does government offer you anyway that you couldn't just buy if you had kept your money?)

WAKE UP.  VOTE LIBERTARIAN.  THERE ARE PEOPLE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FIGHTING THE DEMOPUBLICAN CONTROL MACHINE TO GIVE YOU THAT CHOICE AT THE BALLOT BOX.  YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN AWAY FROM YOUR SLAVEMASTER (OR BEAT HIM IN A PHYSICAL FIGHT) LIKE FREDERICK DOUGLASS DID.  YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST HIM.  

USE THAT POWER OR LOSE IT.

MCCAIN-FEINGOLD TOLD YOU YOU HAD TO SHUT UP AFTER YOU SPOKE $2,300 WORTH OF WORDS.  OBAMA SUPPORTS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD, AND EVEN MORE RESTRICTIONS.

WAKE UP.