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Posted Monday, March 17, 2008 10:16 AM

Keeping it Real about Black Fatherhood

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Vanessa S.  Jones at The Boston Globe noticed that a crop of reality shows purporting to showcase rappers as fathers and heads of household has popped up. Rev. Run, Irv Gotti and Snoop Dog all bring their own brand of hip-hop fathering to middle-America—f'r shizzle.

 I'm still waiting for the reality show about single fatherhood. After all, we know the black nuclear family is rare and nearly extinct: co-parenting arrangements are the new reality. This topic, not so far removed from me, as I am in a custody fight. The truth is that more and more, black men are fighting for—and getting –custody of their children. Black fatherhood these days looks more like the Will Smith-produced sitcom, with a committed couple and a baby-mama or baby-daddy who has to be managed.  

Single black fatherhood seems to run counter to conventional wisdom that suggests black men have sex with their track shoes on and bolt for the door butt-naked moments after conception. When we read about single black fathers, the words "irresponsible," "dead beat" or "absentee" seem to naturally permeate the conversation.

 

News items about famous hip-hop dads like Sean Combs and 50 Cent seem to focus on the amount of child support they pay. We don't read a lot about hip-hop dads like Busta Rhymes, who fought for custody of his kids. Of the homeboys in my crew, all have kids, few have wives but most have baby-mamas, and some even have custody. And it's not all babies and cream—it's a real struggle: The kind of drama that would make compelling television.  

Don't you agree?

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Posted By: ken (March 17, 2008 at 10:46 AM)

Yeah it would make compelling TV, but are these "co-parenting" arrangements what we want to normalize for young Black boys?  I don't think so.  


Posted By: slavkandyba (March 17, 2008 at 1:32 PM)

there should be more reality tv shows that dispel stereotypes. period.


Posted By: deduction (March 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM)

why do we have to call it a "reality" show?  "reality" shows have been around for years.  they were called documentaries.  calling something a reality show today implies that it is a cheap form of entertainment where a regular person whores out their personal life for 15 minutes of infamy.   i think it would be interesting to see if it were done tastefully and "real" as opposed to the schlocky crap that is on a lot of these reality shows.  

and if you haven't noticed, the life that is already "normalized" for young black kids (or kids in general) is far from what most of us would consider preferable.


Posted By: Cobb (March 17, 2008 at 5:32 PM)

Ahh. I shake my head like my grandfather on the day that I have to admit that we need compelling television. Considering that he didn't have jack, or any broadband to jack into, maybe the problem *is* compelling television.

Maybe what we need is some Nathaniel Hawthorne up in this b**ch. Or better yet, let the single man not have his kids and ship his ass off to the French Foreign Legion. I say this as a hypocrite who has gotten custody of my son, but I know I didn't have to marry homegirl because her father was nowhere around to *make* me. Aside from all that I know a boy can't live with his mother forever. Sooner or later we get men and men come to where the men are or stay boys.


Posted By: ken (March 18, 2008 at 12:06 AM)

@deduction

I hear ya about what has already been normalized, but that doesn't mean that I have to meekly accept it or like it.  

I work hard not to pass judgment on others, I swear I do; for the most part I'm a sympathetic guy that can see most issues from a perspective that differs from my own, but this baby-mama/baby-daddy thing really brings out the judgmental a$$hole in me.  So forgive me brothers if I go off the deep end here, I'm just being real.

Shouldn't we want and expect something more than 70% of Black children being born out of wedlock?  Jimi talks about his homeboys who,". . . all have kids, few have wives . . ." so casually, like this isn't something that a man shouldn't feel some shame about.  Seriously, WTF?  Is this the world we want to leave our children, is this the example we want to set for our sons, is this the treatment we want to teach our daughters to expect?

I'm going to stop here and I look forward to hearing back from some of you over the next few days.

Best,

Ken


Posted By: Ditchsurfer (March 18, 2008 at 10:43 AM)

It would be nice to focus on responsibilty, instead of the rampant single mothers who have kids from multiple fathers, who mostly dont pay a dime, It would be nice for the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons, to blast black on black crime. How many black men were killed by black men in the last year and no one says a word. But if some white radio host says something even resembling racist, he is vilified until termination or he pays off the two mentioned above.


Posted By: AA (March 18, 2008 at 2:20 PM)

As the single parent of two children I disagree, I watch both Snoop and Rev Run and happen to like the media portraying positive images of these black men being leaders in their family, taking responsibility and at least presenting an image of trying to raise decent kids true or not.How many times have we watched black people being portrayed in negative light we don't have alot of shows that do that so kudos to those that do.. There are alot of single fathers with custody and alot of single women also, However I don't want  my children to believe single parenting is the way to go for any gender.


Posted By: rebeccawalker (March 18, 2008 at 3:52 PM)

Very important discussion. I can't tell you how many black men I know who lost their children because the mother was deemed more important in the child's life by the family court system, and how many dads paid child support for twenty years only to be lumped into the category of deadbeat dad anyway (and are still alienated from their kids, who were told their father abandoned them). It is time black fathers claim their place in the sun. I was surprised to find more sophisticated approached to institutionalized dad-hating in the UK, where many multi-racial orgs like Dads-Uk are challenging everything from custody laws to paternal work leaves.


Posted By: mj3eye (March 18, 2008 at 8:37 PM)

I think the one of the real questions we must start to ask ourselves as we get into this discussion is this:

What is a "normal" family? I would venture to say that none of us responding to this post grew up in what our culture has feed us that a "normal" family should be. Either we had two parents at one point, but they split up...or, maybe we only grew up with one parent....or, our parents did stay together, but the scenario wasnt much of a "Cosby Show" episode.  Through it all, we all managed to come out of it with some sense of right and wrong, some type of moral compass, and the sense enough to know that we were loved, despite our "non-normal" circumstances.  Like Ken said, co-parenting is becoming something that is not going to go away.  It can be done in a way that makes the most of the situation that we are dealt.  Real life does not follow a script.  If we look at it...growing up "non-normal" is really what normal is.


Posted By: famfirst (March 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM)

I'm with Ken on this. The fact that a unhealthy pattern has set in, is no reason to just accept it as normal or progressive. We already have young boys thinking it's okay to have children with no commitment to the mothers. This is just wrong. And it's not a matter of  alternative family structure. It's not working for us. We should not be accepting it as if it is.