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Posted Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:29 AM

Losing PA [call]

melissa harrislacewell

Marc,

I may need you to bring me a cup of tea. I am feeling pretty beat up this morning. I know you are not an Obama supporter, but you may have to give a little help to your girl because last night was hard to take.

I did not think Obama would win Pennsylvania, but something about having to sit up late and watch another HRC “victory” speech put me over the edge. Maybe it’s because friends from as far away as Seattle and Texas came this weekend to volunteer in PA and stopped by my place in NJ on Sunday afternoon. We had a little dinner and made Veronica Chamber’s famous “Barack Pie” as a sign of solidarity with our candidate. For dessert we allowed ourselves to whisper to one another, “What if…I know he can’t, but what if?”

All day Tuesday I fielded calls from press and relatives. “Can he win it?” they asked. Responsibly I answered, “No, I don’t think so. Too much of the old PA machine behind the Clintons, too many race scandals this month, too big a gap to overcome.” But secretly I kept thinking, what if… 

"What if” is central to my support for Obama. What if black people could lead a winning coalition? What if working class white folks could see past race? What if we could change our politics and trust our government? What if we could responsibly get out of Iraq? What if Obama turned out to be a great President? What if we could wake up and still feel that we were dreaming?

Last night I exchanged emails all night with friends. Some said Barack must fight harder, dirtier and meaner. Some sent optimistic notes about how good it looks in North Carolina and Indiana. Some just sent “??” or “☹” or “here we go again.”

I was in with the last group. I realized that there are some days when I have no analysis, no witty comeback and no cute story. Some days it is just hard to lose. So Marc, will you bring me a cup of tea?

Melissa

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Posted By: thinkingoutloud (April 23, 2008 at 8:52 AM)

Who are you telling!!!!! But, let's just hope that he shuts it down once and for all on May 6th.  He just has to be extremely cautious with what he says...He really cannot afford to make anymore gaffes! She has proven time and time again that she has no respect for rules and fairness, so anything is game!  Therefore, he has to be exceptionally cautious over these next couple of weeks...By the way, MSNBC reported last night, that today some Republicans from NC were going to disclose some more "scandalous" information about some of Obama's previous associates...Yet another distraction....


Posted By: thinkingoutloud (April 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM)

I wonder if John Edwards had endorsed Obama prior to the Pennsylvannia primary and campaigned with him there, if Hillary would have still been victorious?  


Posted By: The Spaniard (April 23, 2008 at 1:00 PM)

Don't worry, the likelihood of HRC winning the nomination is next to ZERO.

I hope Barack continues to take the high road with these scumbags (and Obama isn't even my prefered candidate!).  All he has to do is speak the truth because the HRC campaign is a farce.  Almost as bad as the Republican scum she seems to be emulating.

I get the sense that the Republicans are PRAYING for a general election vs. HRC.  At the same time I believe that it would be a tough fight for Obama too, but not for the same reasons.  The Gov. of PA said it himself with regards to the racist elements in certain parts of the country.


Posted By: miss lauren (April 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM)

I feel your pain. Our candidate lost, but hey think of it this way, HRC will probably not make it after May 6 and then she will just have to stump forcefully behind our guy while playing his kind of politics or the Democrats really will have nothing to do with her. after May 6, if she decided to still be a pain in the rump the party will really have to "denounce and reject her" as the saying goes, too bad for her, she could have had a shot say in 2016.


Posted By: firewire (April 23, 2008 at 3:36 PM)

Remember that taking the road less traveled is never easy. It takes strength of character, heart, soul and spirit. It is a time demanding energy draining process that always requires battling in the spiritual not the physical realm.

My wife and I just tuned out the news last night. Played some calming music and rested.

This is the most draining political experience we confronted in decades and we live in Alaska.

This is the modern day march to Selma.


Posted By: DrewReason (April 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM)

Perhaps Marc has some cappuccino for you.  

What's the point in asking working class white folks to overlook race when they've had to overlook sex and gender.  

lol.


Posted By: kid5rivers (April 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM)

I cannot understand/have short shrift for persons feeling remorse /sadness over something they expected to happen.

We knew that we we not going to win this particular battle, a battle we could not avoid. So, the next best thing? Give the foe a run for her money -weaken her where it hurt her most: her pocket, thus ensuring that she "enjoy" a pyrrhic victory. Which is exactly what happened.

For, even as her camp celebrates, she and her top strategists know that their cause is hopeless and that only a miracle could/would haul their coals out of the fire.

Seeing how she pilloried Reverend Wright, I don't think The Great Miracle Worker is inclined to do her any favours, ever.


Posted By: struck_off (April 24, 2008 at 4:15 AM)

Your man would easily have walked into the White House if he had waited, waited to work with his Party and make a name for himself that wasnt' so enmeshed with questions of race, waited to work more at the Senate, waited til his Party was ready for him.  He's made a grab because the sitting President is so unpopular that a Dem victory should be assured.  And the devil take anyone who gets in his way.  


Posted By: zinjanthropus (April 24, 2008 at 9:12 AM)

Waited till his party was ready for him? "His party" couldn't beat W in 04 and barely beat the idiot in 2000 to the point that W was able to call in favors to take it. What makes you think this disorganized group of individuals will ever be "READY" for anything? Your reasoning sounds familiar... "Mississippi just aint READY for negroes in their state colleges". "Georga aint READY for negroes to vote" Would you have said the same thing if this was Edwards or Kucinich?

Consider this; Besides the name factor, there were several Rethugs more qualified than W to be the G.O.P. candidate in 2000 but W stepped up and surpassed all of them without his party's readiness. The party had no choice but to follow along because Americans wanted a numbskull in office.This is politics in the U.S.


Posted By: thevegasstyleguy (April 24, 2008 at 9:54 AM)

maybe if we blacks could see past race? how about that? everytime i mention that im a delegate for hrc black people go nuts! ive been accused of everything from racial self hatred to being a high yellow tom. white people have never spoken to me like that. a 92% vote by blacks looks to white and latin/asian america like exactly what is, blacks voting for someone just because he's black. when i tell obama people im gay they really lose it and then feel justified in saying oh you like white d*#@%*k. grow up my people. and barack pie?! are you kidding me?


Posted By: thevegasstyleguy (April 24, 2008 at 9:56 AM)

maybe if we blacks could see past race? how about that? everytime i mention that im a delegate for hrc black people go nuts! ive been accused of everything from racial self hatred to being a high yellow tom. white people have never spoken to me like that. a 92% vote by blacks looks to white and latin/asian america like exactly what is, blacks voting for someone just because he's black. when i tell obama people im gay they really lose it and then feel justified in saying oh you like white d*#@%*k. grow up my people. and barack pie?! are you kidding me?


Posted By: mdclark (April 24, 2008 at 10:23 AM)

I wish there was something magical possible in Evansville IN, BUT, this is feeling like one of those moments best characterized as the Empire Strikes Back.  Yes, the Clinton Death Star is powerful and at some level there is a reservoir (unavoidable, shrinking) of white resentment (and undeniable enchantment) of Obama.  It is this reservoir fueled by a history of privilege and (yes) YT supremacy that is ther for Hillary adn Bill to tap into....okay Let's call it The Force....

I am from Indiana, ...a Hoosier, so believe me,. I know the (YT) Force is strong in small town IN (and they aint even BITTER!)  In the history of IN, there have been arguably 3 Klan affiliated governors (one demonstrated to be an actual Klan member).  My friend's grandfather used to refer to IN as "Alabama on Asphalt".....with all that said:

Obama still is 5 points ahead of Hillary......Maybe there is magic, you know?

Have a cup of tea and think about the possibility.  Hatin on Hillary aint enuff but understanding the forces that they can tap into is essential.  What about the North Carolina Republicans?  I think we are entering into a new counter attack moment that Obama (I pray ) is ready to handle with grace.  At the end of the day, the Clintons will tap into every arce angle available and walk away intact.  I hope we can say the same about Obama and Michelle.


Posted By: The Spaniard (April 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM)

People should be going nuts but not because you're gay or because of some sort of "self-hatred" but because your candidate is little, if at all, better than the republican scum that purposely and knowingly distort issues and statements to their benefit while pandering to the most base and crass elements of the citizens he purports to care about.  

HRC has very little honor & I hope the superdelegates do not overrule the will of the people (slightly similar to 2000).

I believe a large number of HRC supporters are behind her because they are hoping for a 3rd term of Bill Clinton by proxy.  Like that is some sort of great thing anyway.  Bill Clinton is/was overrated.

Although anyone who enjoys some strange every now and then would be MORE likely to get my vote!


Posted By: Independent Brother (April 24, 2008 at 11:22 AM)

I'm sorry "thevegasstyleguy," but Hillary Clinton cannot win without the black vote.  As such, considering the race baiting she has engaged in during this primary election, she is doomed in the gerenal election.  Obama might have a tough time winning over working class white voters, but it will be almost impossible for Hillary to win the black vote.  You still have time to switch, Brother.


Posted By: Be On It (April 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM)

how many people voted for W. because they identified with him? How many of these working class white Americans (who make up the majority of the US population) took one look at that postering cowboy and felt that "he was the guy that they could have a beer with?"  Please. While I know a sizeable majority of blacks support Barack simply because he is black, most people (black or white) support him because they like him.  Most voters don't study the policy positions of their candidates, they just watch the political coverage and pick the person they like the most.  It's sad that the majority media plays up "he only has the Black vote because he is black" angle so much when the very same thing can be said of all white politicians (especially those running for high offices) and the Latino/Hispanic politicians in CA, TX, and FL.


Posted By: lisalisa (April 24, 2008 at 1:01 PM)

Maybe if HRC supporters had not begun, way back when, suggesting that every black person who supports Obama is doing so because of our inability to "see past race" (or because we're sexist)  she might have more of us.  These are lame and tiresome arguments, and frankly they have driven as many people away from her as anything else. The best reason to be for Obama, now that Edwards is out, is because of HRC. The arguments against her are legion, and none of them have to do with her gender or her race. History alone would give lie to that argument.  

Maybe you're hearing the objections through the filter of your own stuff..


Posted By: lotusdc (April 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM)

Some days, it is just hard to lose.  I couldn't agree more, and I could use a cup of tea, too.  Thanks for this post.


Posted By: nawimean (April 24, 2008 at 8:50 PM)

Why <i>not<i> vote for the intelligent honorable diligent black man???  I just don't understand the resistance to this concept by some blacks.  It is an act of integrity, community and love to support Barack.  It doesn't mean that we who support him are unthinking lemmings, incapable of independent thought.  Barack is capable of being not just a <i>good<i> president, but possiblt a <i>great<i> president.  I choose to be inspired, - that's why I choose Barack.  It is difficult for me to understand how a Black person born and raised in this country would not feel the same.

I started this primary season supporting Barack, but pleased with Hillary (and Edwards) as options.  Several months later, I was rudely awakened, by the unmitigated bile consistently spewed from Hillary's mouth.  I have seriously lost all respect for the woman, and it boggles my mind that any objective Hillary supporter would not feel the same way.  


Posted By: MissMarc (April 24, 2008 at 9:22 PM)

Melissa,

Here's your cup of tea.  Just think, a black man that would have the courage to run for the presidency knowing what he was up against,  not only threats to his life, but the dirty politics and old conditioning of some whites, and still be able to stand up and make a fantastic and moving speech, and go on to the next state before we've had a chance to digest his last loss...is a courageous man.  He will win!


Posted By: MissMarc (April 24, 2008 at 9:28 PM)

By the way, if he has to be careful about everything he says, it's going to be hard for him to really be as strong as we'd like him to be.  How can he say what's really in his heart, when he knows his opposition is going to pick apart every little word that comes out of his mouth.  And then you have a media that appeals to the lowest common denominator...feeding them with the latest gossip...no facts, just gossip knowing that what they want to hear.  That's why I say, this man is courageous.  I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he gets home and night and vents!!


Posted By: SilenceISGolden (April 25, 2008 at 5:25 AM)

Call me crazy but this is how I see it.  This is going all the way to Puerto Rico.  Not b/c Hillary will prove that she is a better candidate over the next months but b/c the DEM party WANTS this to go all the way to June.  This is all about registering enough DEM to landslide the Rep. in down ticket elections.  Therefore, the Rep can't rig the election machines in close races.  

The funny thing is that the stupid Rep. can't help but use their hate machine against Obama.  They are completely being played by the Clintons and the Dem party.  The continuation of the race will result in the election continuing through   Al Gore’s endorsement in Oregon.

The only monkey wrench would be if Edwards supports Obama before the NC primary. Then, if that happens and they campaign together in Indiana, my theory is full of hot garbage.  Obama will win Indiana.  

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Posted By: kid5rivers (April 25, 2008 at 9:11 AM)

Dear "struck_off",

Please don't provoke me to address you by your correct name, okay?


Posted By: peachie49 (April 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM)

Senator Obama is going to do an interview on Fox news. This will seal his defeat. Obama comes across too soft to take on the loud, fast talking ultra conservatives. They know this and that's why he's been set up every time in a debate for failure. He needs to learn to refuse to answer their "dumb" questions, even McCain does that. When McCain is asked about any controversial issue, he refuses to answer and moves on. So does Hillary. Obama goes into some, "well, let me explain..." It's obvious that that he did not take any lessons from Rev Wright or any other "BLACK" man on how to deal with white folks!


Posted By: canUCit (April 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM)

I feel your pain. Most of today's media posts are truly bashing Senator Obama and urging Senator Clinton forward. Too many people keep saying that he has no substance, but those same folk have not taken time to read his Blue Print for Change or to learn the truth about him. None of the candidates are perfect, but Obama is the best choice. People believe a lie before the truth and a lie unchallenged becomes the truth. If people in the remaining primary states believe the twisted ads bashing Senator Obama, and choose not to cast their ballots for him, and IF Senator Clinton somehow becomes the nominee, it will show that people would rather have an unethical and ruthless nominee instead of a nominee willing to bridge the many gaps between these DIS-United States.


Posted By: AprilLynn (April 25, 2008 at 2:01 PM)

Let's be honest here (which the majority of responders are)! Whenever a black anything jumps into the game, you learn as much as you can about him or her. Keep it real! Whenever a black man or woman is in a gameshow or competition, you root for the black man/woman! With that being said, you pay close attention to what the black person is saying as well.

The notion that black folks are voting for Obama because he's black is null and void. It's a given but trust that we know more about Obama's policies, his history, where he came from, hell, even his favorite music, than any HRC supporters know about Hillary. The fact is, because there are so few of us competing.


Posted By: divajant (April 25, 2008 at 2:09 PM)

Well I've been reading your comments, don't everyone give in so readily.  Now if Indiana cheats at the polling places like Pennsylvania did, then yes we have cause for worry.  As you can see how the Rep want HRC in because they know that should McCain have to run against Senator Obama, he can't win.  So let's keep hope alive, keep praying, and create that positve aura for the one person out of the three we know can put into motion the changes we need for a better United States.