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Posted Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 PM

Down from the Tower - Super Delegates [call]

hillm

Melissa,

 

Over the past few weeks there’s been a growing conversation about the role of super-delegates in the tight race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Since it’s plausible that neither of them will have enough pledged delegates prior to the convention, party insiders may be the ultimate deciders of the Democratic nominee. Conventional wisdom suggests that such an outcome plays to the advantage of Hillary Clinton, whose deep political ties may win her an election despite having won fewer states and pledged delegates. If this happens, it will signal the end of the Democratic Party.

 

How hypocritical would it be for the DNC to complain about the Republicans stealing Florida in 2000 and then ignore the will of the people in 2008? How can they whisper about voter nullification in 2004 and allow party insiders to cancel out the votes of everyday people? At least Republicans steal the other party’s votes!

 

No longer will the party have the ostensible moral authority to complain about Republican oligarchy and anti-democratic power mongering. Also, many of the young cult members Obama supporters who are voting for the first time will become disillusioned with the process. More immediately, any candidate who wins a brokered election will be nothing more than a tackling dummy for John McCain in November.

 

Am I being hyperbolic about the dangers of a brokered election? Am I worrying too much about nothing? Will the super-delegates merely fall in line with the popular vote? Should they?

Marc

Marc Lamont Hill is Assistant Professor of Urban Education and American Studies at Temple University. 

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Posted By: dafitchett (February 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM)

cult members? if obama supporters qualify as such, so do all political supporters, no?

that aside, i'm really hoping something comes along to steer this "election" in a different direction than the one it appears to be heading in.


Posted By: R.oB. (February 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM)

I think your questions are fair of the Dems for they are the party of They Who Are Without Spines (at least when it comes to our ideals).  I would not be surprised to see a brokered election and the end to the Dems as we know it just because the elite haven't the sense to deal with the grassroots.  I personally have watched a lot of activists, albeit far left on some issues, who have been greatly disillusioned with the party elite.  I consider myself one of them, although I'm more center-left.  Considering the level of disregard from the elite ("Who else are you going to vote for?"), I would be dismayed but not surprised at a brokered election.


Posted By: ladybee21 (February 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM)

Marc,

Hate not, that ye be not hated.


Posted By: Laureate (February 14, 2008 at 8:20 PM)

Marc you are not worrying too much about nothing. You eloquently stated points do not require restatement. Hillary won Florida and Michigan, but already the Barack Osama ah I mean Barack Obama folks want to deny her these delegates. I am certain that they would take a different position if the situation were in reverse.

By the way, the delegates at the conventions have always picked the candidates.


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Posted By: David Bohr (February 17, 2008 at 9:50 PM)

You are absolutely right Marc.  If Clinton wins due to a super delegate count, McCain will win.  A lot of people distrust the Clintons, including some in the Democratic Party, enough so that a protest vote will go to McCain, which may not be a bad thing.  Despite his stance on the war, that he claims now, so that he can get the war monger vote, he may actually end the thing for the sake of the country.


Posted By: Scientific (February 19, 2008 at 1:14 PM)

Marc, how'd you get to become a professor without having first becoming a grown-up?

By calling Obama supporters "cult members" is simply childish.  I come to this site for intelligent conversation about African-Americans, not name-calling.  If I wanted that, I'd read Paul Krugman.


Posted By: BBFmail (February 21, 2008 at 8:50 AM)

"Also, many of the young cult members Obama supporters who are voting for the first time will become disillusioned with the process. More immediately, any candidate who wins a brokered election will be nothing more than a tackling dummy for John McCain in November."

Good.  Time for a reality check for the poor first-time voters.  They should be disillusioned about the Democrats choice of two candidates who continually supported funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at the cost of millions of Iraqi lives and thousands of US soldiers and $15 or so billion a month.  Are they disillusioned because their pretend anti-war candidate might not get to run (and lose) against Mr. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iraq?  Why no complaint about the Super Delegates all these years?  Hasn't this procedure been in place for over 30 years or so?  Am re-reading and still agreeing w/Mr. Hills' previous article which I read in CounterPunch concerning Obama:

http://www.counterpunch.org/hill02112008.html

Obama's Politics of Cunning, Compromise and Concession

Not My Brand of Hope

By MARC LAMONT HILL

From the beginning of his presidential campaign, which unofficially began with the release of his second book The Audacity of Hope, Senator Barack Obama has been positioned as an underdog against the Clinton machine. Now, with polls showing him in a virtual dead heat with Sen. Hillary Clinton, the media has constructed his early success as a David-over-Goliath narrative that proves that ordinary people have the power to slay the beast that is Washington through a radical politics of hope. Unfortunately, the Obama campaign has perverted the concept of hope by wedding it to a dangerous politics of compromise, concession and cunning.


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