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Posted Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:34 AM

The "R" Word: Hollywood's Tropic Thunder Gets another Beating

Keith Josef Adkins

 

photo credit AFP
 

Hats off to the intellectually disabled and the Special Olympics for not tolerating Hollywood and their excuses.  They want Ben Stiller's Tropic Thunder boycotted.  And so they should.  I'm an uncle of a main-streamed nephew living with Down's Syndrome. And although I was somewhat of a conscious kid [my mother pinched my arm whenever I said anything that insulted others], I was guilty of using the term "retard" on a few occasions and garnered many satisfying laughs when I did.  You know, like the time Becky Haufman, born with severe Leg Length Discrepancy, limped into a spelling bee and I mocked her [my mother was called of course, and boy, did I get a pinching].  But it wasn't until my brother's first son was born unexpectedly with Down's Syndrome did I really understand the impact of the term.  The horror behind it.  The ignorance and the insecurity.

Hollywood is a ticket-selling machine.  There are certainly lots of development execs who possess much integrity [I've met them], but they're not the shinning stars of Tinseltown.  It's the other ones.  The ones who think dwarfs dancing with strippers is innocent fun.  The ones who believe exploited obesity is a sure box office draw.  The ones who insist that sassy, neck-rolling, ghetto-speaking black women is humor in its purest form.  And when you challenge it, like the time I challenged a joke about an elderly woman copulating with a dog, I was told, Get over it.  It's a joke.  It's comedy.  Jeez.

During my Hollywood tenure it was quite clear that those running the show were mostly non-creative types with no interest in cultural sensitivity or social responsibility.  You know, adolescent boys in men's suits who believed everything and -body was fair game when it came to making money [excluding themselves].  They didn't have any more interest in the repercussions of gang-banger movies than they did with comedies that reeked with homophobia or Hillybilly-hate.  A ticket sale was a ticket sale.

So, it's no surprise that the intellectually disabled and the Special Olympics are not being heard in Hollywood.  I'm sure some young exec is sitting at his desk in Burbank thinking:  It's a satire, for crissakes.  Stop the whining and get over this victim mentality.  Asians, gays, blacks, and other possible institutional complainers aren't raising concern.  [Well, that's a lie, I mentioned Robert Downing Jr. and his blackface character in a post a while ago here at TheRoot.]  But you understand my point.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good laugh.  In fact, I often dreamed of being a stand-up comedian.  But intellectual insensitivity and/or racial irresponsibility need to be challenged in Hollywood.  Relentlessly.  Then maybe one day every fat, gay, black, ugly, misogynist, retard joke is wiped clean from comedy.  But wait, what would Hollywood joke about?  What would we laugh at?  Now I'm thinking boycotts like the one protesting "retard" could very well put an end to the comedic movie.  Uh oh.

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Posted By: Olivia James (August 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM)

My son Marcel was born with Down Syndrome almost 7 years ago.  Although he too is high functioning, he is quickly approaching the age where other children will realize he's different and that terrifies me.  When he was born, I cried at the diagnosis, not for self pity, but for him and the tribulations he will face.  I used to use the R word all the time before he was born and not think anything of it.  Today, I can hear that word across a crowded room while I am actively engaged in another conversation.  I know most people don't mean anything by it, just like I didn't when I used it.  But in my own ears, when people say "You're retarded." all I hear is "You're acting like Marcel."  of "Don't be like that kid."


Posted By: Keith Josef Adkins (August 14, 2008 at 1:52 PM)

OLIVIA JAMES... Thanks for your comment.  


Posted By: BortimusPrime (August 14, 2008 at 3:59 PM)

It's funny when someone with no sense of humor professes that he "loves a good laugh".


Posted By: iluvgrammer (August 14, 2008 at 4:16 PM)

You pondered the fate of comedy after removing possibly offensive terms. I immediately thought of the Dave Chappelle joke about Sunny D and the Purple stuff. He's saying the ads are funny, yeah, but just mostly because we know that somewhere, someone is choosing to drink the Purple stuff, and that 'someone' is black.

Similar is the Robot Insurance gag from Saturday Night Live. It is a ridiculous premise that posits a need for insurance from runaway, destructive robots. However, the gag also revolves around the senility of old people and their distrust of technology.  Age-ism at its most hilarious.

People will always cross the line and the politically correct will always be there to call them out. It is a true Host-Parasite relationship, one which goes both ways. Without whiners, comedians wouldn't get laughs. Similarly, without comedians, whiners wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

Please apply this argument with as broad a brush as you can imagine.


Posted By: johnny_boy (August 14, 2008 at 10:39 PM)

I wonder, when will we see a film about throwing jewish babies into ovens for laughs? Oops I fogot, Ben stiller is Jewish and most of the cowards decideing what we see in hollywood are too. "Polictical correctness" prevents them from making a movie offending Jews.


Posted By: DrewReason (August 15, 2008 at 2:32 AM)

Responsibility is such a hag.   My sensitivity to the "R" word becomes intolerance when the person using the word is clueless about lives w/ disability.    A number of people that I'm supposed to respect have dropped a notch or twelve in my book simply because they've jeered a person w/a developmental disability.        I'm the mom of a moderately and severely autistic 9 yo.  Moderately and severely because some days are better than others :-)   He's a really cute growing boy.    www.myspace.com/drewreason.

I would like to think that Stiller is a lot more responsible, but I guess not and that's disappointing.  I'm a Stiller fan.  Was at least.  I think he is silly.  A nonchalant kind of silly if that makes sense.  Overall, he's (was) fun to watch and makes (made) me laugh.  But Stiller's  comment on "R" rated comedy raised an eyebrow.  I associate "R" rated comedy with intelligent humor and PG-13 with stupidity.  

BTW, I'm surprised at the poster who thinks you have no sense of humor, Keith.     I love sardonism.  Couldn't live w/o it.    I'm still laughing at your idea of satire and the Obama's listening to Billie Holliday or something like that.  (that post on The New Yorker cover).  


Posted By: Tampa Diva (August 15, 2008 at 9:34 AM)

". But in my own ears, when people say "You're retarded." all I hear is "You're acting like Marcel."  of "Don't be like that kid."

Olivia James, That sentence brought tears to my eyes. That says so much. those us of who do not have special needs people in our lives really can't understand the point of view. In our heads we're thinking "I didn't mean it like that" but that's how it sounds to someone who is effected by it.

The way minorities are offended by the phrase "you people." It may seem harmless but it carries a lot of social weight.

I know many of us complain about having to be too PC towards every group, but do any of us have the right to tell people what they should or shouldn't be offended by in the name of humor? (I.e. the New Yorker?)


Posted By: SalemDemeter (August 15, 2008 at 12:25 PM)

I think what you're saying in the article is EXACTLY what the filmmakers are satirizing. Hollywood types will exploit mentally challenged individuals for profit and career credibility. but don't actually respect them as humans. The butt of the joke is HOLLYWOOD.


Posted By: ecarden (August 16, 2008 at 12:35 AM)

Johnny_Boy, I give yout this, without further comment from the New York Times review of this movie: "What’s most notable about the film’s use of blackface is how much softer it is compared with the rather more vulgar and far less loving exploitation of what you might call Jewface. Hands down the most noxious character in “Tropic Thunder” is Les Grossman, the producer of the movie-within-a-movie, who’s played by an almost unrecognizable Tom Cruise under a thick scum of makeup and latex. Heavily and heavy-handedly coded as Jewish, the character is murderous, repellent and fascinating, a grotesque from his swollen fingers to the heavy gold dollar sign nestled on his yeti-furred chest."


Posted By: Kane (August 16, 2008 at 4:13 AM)

Though I'm sure your viewpoints of the execs in hollywood are dead on since you've actually met and dealt with them, they aren't the problem. The american public buys the tickets. The execs just pick projects they know from experience will sell. And as we know just from the last 100 years in the u.s.a. social change is a drawn out and painful process.


Posted By: Keith Josef Adkins (August 16, 2008 at 6:39 AM)

KANE... Of course my viewpoint is based on my experience and observation of SOME execs [or dare I say MOST].  And like I said, I many met execs who are smart, socially and politically conscious, mavericks and who fight hard, very hard, for quality TV and Film development. And there are certainly enough of these integrity-minded execs to keep Hollywood from being a completely sour experience for  many writers and actors, HOWEVER... lol...

Although ticket sales are a guiding force in Hollywood [like you mentioned], many decisions about projects originate from the minds of execs. Sometimes they create the trends that ultimately coerce audiences to consume and buy, etc. [Meaning they have the power to create what the general Joe and Jane will buy and like]. And I know for a fact that some decisions about characters and story lines and DIALOGUE are based on the personal tastes, biases, or experiences [however limited or grand] of some execs.


Posted By: SilenceISGolden (August 16, 2008 at 8:23 AM)

@ Keith... or anyone I guess

Since you have Hollywood experience, do you think that this is an attempt to drum up controversy and media coverage for the film?

Can't comment on the film itself b/c I haven't seen it yet.


Posted By: point.two.eight (August 17, 2008 at 4:45 AM)

It's tough, getting around Hollywood without being offended. "Chuck & Larry" was a fairly equal mix of insight and Adam Sandler saying "f-----t" over a dozen times. Nearly every comedy ever made (see: "Dodgeball") is sullied by a tasteless, useless fat-girl joke. The latest Harold & Kumar includes a cyclopean inbred basement child (Yes, this is partially my fault for expecting better of a movie about escaping from Guantanamo.)

I wonder if you saw the way Arrested Development handled a mentally disabled character, and whether you thought it crossed the line of taste. I haven't seen Thunder, but I was led to believe the retard jokes were at least trying to make a point.


Posted By: mrgetmo (August 17, 2008 at 6:22 AM)

well with all this nice crap being posted i feel it's my duty to be honest and call it what it really is....it a shame that somebody's kid has down syndrome or this or that but the truth of the matter is  "the 'R' word" as you all call it is NOTHING. how about the word *** or *** being spat out all over television and we're her about this as if it really means something....just like that silly comedy "funeral" that was put on last year, WHAT A JOKE. do any of you honestly believe that *** or *** is going to stop being used because somebody doesnt like it? well please wake up as soon as the alarm goes off and it went off like 400 years ago.


Posted By: ccrase (August 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM)

Olivia James and DrewReason thank you to both of you and to you Keith.  I also have a child with a "disability" he is considered high/moderate functioning autistc.  I also cried when told this, although I am not sure why, I always knew he was a bit "left of center" if you will.  And I absolutly adore him just the way he is!  I laughed when I read about your mom "pinching your arm" to tell you to cool it, my Mom worked with developmentally disabled people and she also was very intolerant of the "R" word.  Anyway getting to my point I don't think that the goal of most people is to complain, as iluvgrammer said.  For me, when I point something like this out it is mostly to educate.  A lot of people say things thoughtlessly, as in they don't intend to harm or offend, they are mostly nice, kind, people who do not think that what they say may bother someone.  I just think that the idea behind pointing out the weight that words have is to give someone a new perspective they may have not had before, it doesn't mean that I or most are going to think less of the person for using this or other words, I just think maybe they didn't have someone to pinch their arm.  


Posted By: Yammer (August 18, 2008 at 1:17 PM)

I've seen Tropic Thunder.  The scene in question involves actors discussing why some actors win accolades portraying mental disabilities and others don't.  The guy saying "full retard" is the same guy whose credibility is thoroughly mocked throughout because of his use of blackface.  In other words, it is not an endorsement of the term.  I also would not understand how this satirical observation could have been made using a more sensitive term, since the point is that the actors are not genuinely sensitive.


Posted By: thevegasstyleguy (August 18, 2008 at 11:04 PM)

Blah Blah Blah

I'm way more offended by Pootytang and anything by any number of rap artists than I am but what is obviously satire and comedy.

Relax


Posted By: SilenceISGolden (August 19, 2008 at 5:02 AM)

PootyTang was a ridiculous classic....

Say-Dee-Tah... You know you wanted to drink some milk out of a cat dish when you saw that movie… unless you are disturbed by the glorification of corporeal punishment. (Doubt it)

 Anyway, we all don't have the eye of a DP to appreciate a Hollywood homage like Breathless... so you got to consider the source and the audience.  The guy hasn't made a quality film since "Something about Mary" (Remember Mary’s brother… I see a pattern here).    I hope the movie is actually funny and that this is all just hype to get butts in the seats.


Posted By: marciamarciamarcia (August 19, 2008 at 12:31 PM)

hey. Just saw the film and that scene was harsh, but....the discussion of "going full r*tard" versus "slow but an uncanny ability" was SPOT ON.  This movie was a satire of the hollywood machine and everyone knows that the key to Oscar gold is playing in "down-syndrome face".  So, Stiller and Downey had a blunt discussion about the intricacies of playing a mentally challenged person to be considered a risk taking actor...and?  From Leonardo DiCaprio in Saving Gilbert Grape to Dustin Hoffman in Rainman, many actors admit to taking the role because if they can succeed in it, they're considered successful.  That tells us more about US as viewers than it does about Hollywood.  We like to see our marginalized brethren played by mainstream actors.  Remember Tom Selleck or Tom Hanks going gay for box office pay?  Or Saint Angelina in blackface for the Pearl story?  I can imagine the convo between two straight actresses now: "Well, you can play dykadelic, but not full butch alright?"  "Yeah, like Gina Gershon in Bound?"  "No, more lipstick lezzie like those chicks from Wild Things"  "Too butch and the blogs will call you a *** for real"

for real.


Posted By: misterb46403 (October 17, 2008 at 11:44 AM)

Once again, I haven’t seen the movie but the topic is interesting. In my opinion, mentally and physically challenged individuals are our society’s savior. Throughout my career, I have worked with this population and it never fails to surprise me how much they will eventually if not immediately let you know that they are just another person. THEY PUT YOU IN YOUR REAL PLACE. They have their challenges, just as the neurotic, schizophrenic and psychotic NORMAL people that we encounter, But, They are some of the most enriching, engaging and satisfying group of people that I have encountered. And it is such poetic justice that this population can be born into any other community. Just as with many other society issues, a person’s merely cursing themselves by trying to put down this and many other pops like gays, albinos etc. Don’t sweat it. They can and will protect themselves if you let them.